DSI outboard sequencer w/ CC, poly, multitrack, macros EXC..... (((!YES PLZ!)))

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DSI outboard sequencer w/ CC, poly, multitrack, macros EXC..... (((!YES PLZ!)))

Post by fubard » Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:11 am

Hi all,

I just wanted to point out just how awesome and under appreciated the sequencer on the Pro-2 is. I my quest to go back to basics, I've been searching far and wide for a good hardware sequencer. So far Ive found the MPC4000 to be the absolute best next to the MIDIBOX Seq V4 and the Arturia Beatstep Pro. The reason the MPC wins there is because its knobs do step sequencing not just for midi notes but for CC data as well! It seems all these new step sequencers are completely neglecting CC data. I mean not even pitch bend or mod wheel are being supported. The thing Midibox has over the MPC and the rest is that its polyphonic. The Pro-2 is absolutely amazing in its flexibility aside from being monophonic to my knowledge.

My purpose here is to float AN IDEA:

What if DSI took the sequencer from the PRO-2 and made an outboard polyphonic sequencer with both per step AND fluid CC control? Would that not be cheap easy and bad Fn azz!? The outboard sequencer market is growing and the trends are shifting that way. Add some cool chord calculating, and some gate/swing/transpose/midi delay macros like on the old groove boxes and you'll be on the cutting edge of the current market! Nobody's put out a decent sequencer for years because people got away from them. WHY? Because they strayed from sequencing and tried to compete with computers in synthesis and sampling. I'd like to see DSI do a sampler too but thats a whole other rant ;) Seriously, the outboard sequencers they're making right now are so basic, its amazing they sell at all. Beatstep Pro? It doesn't even have an 'accent' function. The Pro-2's onboard sequencer blows that thing out of the water! Hell the AN1X from the 90s killed that thing fifteen years ago but people are buying the crap out of it because its a cool 'new' approach to the inspirational phase of writing music. Add a 'song' mode and tandem sequencing for solos and long stuff n you got a fun new piece of gear that can run your whole rig start to finish.

Dave, company guys, focus group members, fellow fans: we can do better than whats on the market. Its already here, it just needs to be removed from the synth, stacked up a few times and added ability for polyphony. YOU CANT GET the SE Engine because its so popular and its basically the same thing. We have the tech, the development is almost already complete. DSI can CORNER the hardware sequencer market w very little effort. MY only question for you now, is WHY NOT? I'd

Cummon guys you can do better than whats out there right now. This is an EASY ONE.
Thanks!

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Re: DSI outboard sequencer w/ CC, poly, multitrack, macros EXC..... (((!YES PLZ!)))

Post by beefpoweredcars » Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:01 pm

Well in the meantime the Zaquencer will sequence cc's. It's a very capable and fun sequencer all around.

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Re: DSI outboard sequencer w/ CC, poly, multitrack, macros EXC..... (((!YES PLZ!)))

Post by fubard » Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:52 pm

Oh hey that DOES look fun :)

I'd build a better box for it n wire the knobs onto a cool looking faceplate. 4 tracks w 4 parts up to 64 steps is a pretty nice setup there.

Theres still some features the Pro-2 has like fluid shift between step levels (cant remember the term used) and CV output isnt necessary but should definately be an option. I also like the visual feedback the Pro-2 offers.

DSI can still do way better, but great point, this might tide me over till then.
Thanks!

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Re: DSI outboard sequencer w/ CC, poly, multitrack, macros EXC..... (((!YES PLZ!)))

Post by HESpook » Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:55 am

There are a couple of notable new sequencers out there at the moment. The Cirklon doesn't seem to fit what op is looking for but there are two more I can think of:

Engine by Social Entropy
This one has an interface that reminds me of the Prophet 6 although that might be because of the way the buttons look. I think it has up to about 1000 steps per sequence, a couple of sequences per channel and 8 channels. I'm not sure if it can sequence cv but I fairly sure it does.

Pyramid by Squarp Instruments
This is the one I bought. It differs a bit from the other alternatives in that it doesn't have channels but instead 64 tracks that can all play at the same time or be muted individually. All tracks have have individual tempo division and length (up towards somewhere around around 1500 steps with 16 substeps per step). full CC control and program change sequenceable.

Both sequencers are Polyphonic and has song mode.

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Re: DSI outboard sequencer w/ CC, poly, multitrack, macros EXC..... (((!YES PLZ!)))

Post by fubard » Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:11 pm

Oh I actually mentioned the Engine. The problem w that is that you cant get one. I love what theyre doing but such a small botique company just cant keep up with demand. I saw the videos put out by squarp and they were so silly that I was turned off. But since you mentioned it, ive looked again, read rather than watched, and found it to be pretty usefull. Thing about the DSI sequencer though, is that its simplicity is beautiful to me. Tracks are assignable to one function which is displayed clearly on the LCD. Besides that, knowing what DSI is capible of w synths, I think that if they looked into making a sequencer, there would be some super cool new functions we never even thought of. I'm happy for all the helpfull responces but what I'm actually looking for is support in the idea because I know that if they chose to, DSI could really rock this!
Thanks!

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Re: DSI outboard sequencer w/ CC, poly, multitrack, macros EXC..... (((!YES PLZ!)))

Post by kisielk » Sat Dec 12, 2015 6:38 am

The Engine seems to be in stock on their website right now...

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