1.2.x buglist

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1.2.x buglist

Post by silvain » Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:39 pm

Hey hey,
1.2.0: I found a couple of bugs in OS 1.2.0, all in the mod matrix.
1. How is it sorted now? If I assign one mod slot, then another and go one slot back - using the soft knob 1 in the mod matrix display - I don't get the previously assigned slot.
2. This happened before, but is now increased: when scrolling through the mod matrix and using the dedicated mod amount knob, I'm scrolling through mod destinations instead of mod amount.
3. I can't assign the same mod source twice in a rwo using the mod source button. Result: the source gets assigned to the newly chosen destination. This only applied to the sliders in previous OS versions.
I'll send these to the DSI support now, with a reference to this thread. So if you too see this behaviour please confirm.
Thank you!

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Re: 1.2.x buglist

Post by BobTheDog » Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:55 pm

Yep, the mod matrix seems to be buggered. It makes no sense at all to me now!

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Re: 1.2.x buglist

Post by BobTheDog » Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:20 pm

I have gone back to the beta version, I couldn't get on with the mod matrix working like this!

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Re: 1.2.x buglist

Post by Kermit » Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:01 pm

Someone tell me when the OS version have passed 3.1 and I will buy me a new P12. ;-)

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Re: 1.2.x buglist

Post by silvain » Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:33 pm

So 1.1.4.1's modmatrix behaves as in 1.1.2? I never managed to upload that to my P12 and went straight to 1.2.0.
Thank you!

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Re: 1.2.x buglist

Post by BobTheDog » Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:44 am

silvain wrote:So 1.1.4.1's modmatrix behaves as in 1.1.2? I never managed to upload that to my P12 and went straight to 1.2.0.
Thank you!
1.1.4.1 behaves normally, download it again and give it a go.

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Re: 1.2.x buglist

Post by chimney chop » Fri Sep 05, 2014 1:34 am

BobTheDog wrote:
silvain wrote:So 1.1.4.1's modmatrix behaves as in 1.1.2? I never managed to upload that to my P12 and went straight to 1.2.0.
Thank you!
1.1.4.1 behaves normally, download it again and give it a go.
where can i download 1.1.4.1?

can't find it on DSI.com


edit:

never mind.

found the sticky

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Re: 1.2.x buglist

Post by Wormsign » Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:48 pm

I've noticed on mine that when I increase LFO modulation with the mod wheel the LFO rate starts behaving strange, almost like it skips/changes frequency. Maybe related to that matrix problem above?

edit: noob moment, forgot to calibrate mod wheel
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Re: 1.2.x buglist

Post by silvain » Sat Sep 06, 2014 2:16 pm

Hey hey,
my mod matrix issue is solved. After replaying the update to OS 1.2.0 everything works as expected.
There's one oddity; using the dedicated mod source and mod dest buttons, you shouldn't assign the same source twice in a row. This can easily be circumvented by:
press and hold mod source button + touch a different source, then touch the source you want.
Example: in a basic patch assigning modwheel to LPF cutoff and resonance
mod source + modwheel
mod dest + LPF cutoff
(adjust mod amount)
mod source + LFO1 button
keep on holding mod source and turn the modwheel
mod dest + LPF resonance
Odd and not as comfortable as before, but it works.
Carson/DSI was very patient and supportive in this matter. But he again stressed, that bugs MUST BE reported to the DSI support staff (via e-mail or website).
So heads up and good luck with 1.2.0!

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Re: 1.2.x buglist

Post by BobTheDog » Sat Sep 06, 2014 3:18 pm

Hi Silvain,

Are you saying that Carson is saying that the weird modulation matrix is how it is meant to be from now on?

Cheers

Andy

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Re: 1.2.x buglist

Post by silvain » Sat Sep 06, 2014 3:36 pm

BobTheDog wrote:Hi Silvain,
Qualify "weird"? As I said, most of the matrix behaves as before. Only the explicitly described "oddity" in my last message is different. the rest appears normal to me.
If you have perceived additional odd behaviour, you too should try to update your P12 again. It seems that small errors can occur during transfer and if they occur at the wrong time, the OS will still be updated "successfully". That's my resumé from this experience.
Are you saying that Carson is saying that the weird modulation matrix is how it is meant to be from now on?

Cheers

Andy

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Re: 1.2.x buglist

Post by F5D » Sat Sep 06, 2014 7:14 pm

I went back to 1.1.4.1.
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Re: 1.2.x buglist

Post by BobTheDog » Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:13 pm

silvain wrote:
BobTheDog wrote:Hi Silvain,
Qualify "weird"? As I said, most of the matrix behaves as before. Only the explicitly described "oddity" in my last message is different. the rest appears normal to me.
If you have perceived additional odd behaviour, you too should try to update your P12 again. It seems that small errors can occur during transfer and if they occur at the wrong time, the OS will still be updated "successfully". That's my resumé from this experience.
Are you saying that Carson is saying that the weird modulation matrix is how it is meant to be from now on?

Cheers

Andy

Yep the only issue I found was using the mod source button, surely it must be a bug. I went back to 1.1.4.1, I will stick with that version I think.

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Re: 1.2.x buglist

Post by Pym » Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:00 pm

It's kinda a bug, it's kinda not. The problem was in certain situations moving a voltage source (sliders, wheel, etc) would fill the entire modulation matrix with the same source. This made it really difficult to keep both functionality so I need to add a workaround to get it working again without that bug. I may simply limit that to buttons and non-voltage sources, which should be sufficient for most people, or try and add a timeout mechanism
BobTheDog wrote:Hi Silvain,

Are you saying that Carson is saying that the weird modulation matrix is how it is meant to be from now on?

Cheers

Andy
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Re: 1.2.x buglist

Post by BobTheDog » Sun Sep 07, 2014 5:17 am

Hi Chris,

Thanks for the info.

Andy

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Re: 1.2.x buglist

Post by davydka » Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:39 am

I ran into an issue today. I'm using a p12 module and an external clock on os 1.2. If I hold an arpeggio and touch a knob on the p12, the whole thing freezes and I have to shut it off. Was only happening on external clock. Global settings had clock as slave/thru.

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Re: 1.2.x buglist

Post by KobraT » Mon Sep 22, 2014 4:26 am

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Re: 1.2.x buglist

Post by silvain » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:00 pm

Hey hey,
for two days now I can't properly set the shapemode on my P12. It's most noticeable with pulse wave. When turning the knob to the right I don't end up with silence. Anyone else experienced that and has an easy fix?

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Re: 1.2.x buglist

Post by Tomavatars » Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:22 pm

Hi there.

I'm not sure if it is a normal behavior.
The BPM of the Layer B can't be independent of the Layer BPM.
If I want the arp of the layer B to play at a different BPM, it doesn't work, it is slaved to the layer A.

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Re: 1.2.x buglist

Post by silvain » Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:48 pm

Tomavatars wrote:Hi there.
I <b>THINK</b> I read about this being the expected behaviour. Not sure if it was in the manual or here on the forum.
I'm not sure if it is a normal behavior.
The BPM of the Layer B can't be independent of the Layer BPM.
If I want the arp of the layer B to play at a different BPM, it doesn't work, it is slaved to the layer A.

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