zerocrossing wrote:Uh, dat'dbe me.cbmd wrote:Thanks for the suggestion, we don't take these things personally most of the time. However, with todays internet forum paradigm in mind, we sometimes feel its necessary to temper user expectations before they get wildly out of control. This is not to say that your suggestion falls into this category.
A good example of this is the Prophet 12's low pass filter range. We increased the overall range of the filter by an octave when compared to the Prophet 08 due to Prophet 08 customers wanting increased range out of the filter. Now we are encountering a few users who would prefer the range to be reduced on the Prophet 12 itself, while others like the increased range...you just can't please everyone all the time.
In the case of the P12 waveform discussion going on over at GS, there has been a lot of conjecture about the cause for "errant" behaviors which have not been quantified by any sort of examples/testing nor evidence of "artifacts".There is a lot of misinformation which can spread like wildfire on forums and it is sometimes in our interest to step in a clear things up.
In general, our instruments have a much larger range of parameter values available when compared to other synthesizer manufacturers. This leads to greater sonic flexibility and palette, though may reduce the "sweet spot" people often refer to when using synths.
But, I did post audio of the waveforms and a spectral analysis. Many people more knowledgable than I acknowledged that it did indeed look and sounds a bit strange. I'm no goldenears, but I've been around the block and I've been using analog and digital synths since 82. I've played everything from Poly 800s to Synclaviers. I've spent a lot of years working in music stores as well so I've seen many things come and go over the years. I've actually heard what I was talking about in demos before I purchased one, but I just assumed it was some wavetable or one of the character functions causing the harshness. I know you don't think it exists, but saying that a fairly large group of seasoned synth users' opinion is "spreading misinformation" is... well it's misinformation.
Anyway, I'm happy with my Prophet 12. I actually really love it. I began a project taking my favorite MoPho sounds and reproducing them on the 12, and I actually feel like I'm improving the patches. I've also recommended it many places including GS, despite it's shortcomings. I've already just naturally started avoiding what I'm talking about, no real need for filter limits. It's like a sensitive tooth, you just learn to make sure the ice cream doesn't hit it. It's easy enough, but the condescending attitude that Oldgearguy and I are somehow starting some propaganda campaign, based on nothing, against the 12 is incorrect.
Oh, and btw, I just heard Marc Doty's Prophet 6 osc demo and they sound fanfentastic to me. So, I'm not out on some DSI witch hunt or something.
Voluntary blindness...a classical facepalm mood for this kind of "love stories". "Please, darling, hear me,...don't hurt me".
Conspiranoia solutions for deviating Reality...I'm a bit sad and ashamed; this kills little kitties all over the world.